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| Hey I was wondsering if anyone knew how to do yogic flying and if they could try to explain it to me. I know its part of the TM program. I would really like to know how to do it so if anyone had any info that be great.
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| I've heard different things, mostly anidontal evidence. Generally I wouldn't worry about it too much. If there is such a thing, then it's a siddhi, which means it's another distraction. If it's not possible, then once again it's not something you should worry about.
As far as the TM guys go, they have a bad rep in some circles for faking various things. The one that sticks in my mind is doctored photos of "levitating" yogis. (Maybe this is what you mean by flying?) Expert analysis of the photos has shown conclusively that they are in fact fakes.
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From what I've read about it, yogic flying is a glorified form of hopping...from
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Location: A Blue State | Cool, Keith! That's you on the bottom, right? With the two girls on top... :lol:
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| Bay Guy - 2005-08-21 7:45 PM
Cool, Keith! That's you on the bottom, right? With the two girls on top... 
You guys crack me up!
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| furcal101 - 2005-08-20 3:19 AM
Hey I was wondsering if anyone knew how to do yogic flying and if they could try to explain it to me. I know its part of the TM program. I would really like to know how to do it so if anyone had any info that be great.
Thanks, mike
My view of flying yogis is different.. But you guys will not agree so I will not tell anything about that. In ancient times there has been flying yogis. I dont know whether you call them "Yogis" or what., basically they are the people who improved their mind and attained to a status which they have the total controll of their body and mind., When you attain the status "Arhath" it sais you can even be invisible and be visible again in another location.. I have read a loot in this and its not easy to explain it either.. Even I dont know whether I believe them 100% or not. So I would like to keep all of them to myself.
Have you ever thought of the concept behind data communication? How you send data and receive from another location..? Its amazing yeah? Do you believe that our thoughts can travel like that? Even the body can travel;
when soembody ask me about fying yogis .. I say.. yeah they are there in Matrix
Ohhh,,, Is that the Yoga guy ??????????????  hmmmm.. I thought Yoga guy looks like Brad Pitt 
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| I once knew and advanced TM practitioner who did the flying thing. His basement was wall to wall mattresses so he could do the "hopping" that I've seen on TV. Talk about a lot of yoga props! |
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| tourist - 2005-09-06 10:29 AMI once knew and advanced TM practitioner who did the flying thing. His basement was wall to wall mattresses so he could do the "hopping" that I've seen on TV. Talk about a lot of yoga props!
Sounds like fun!
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| No No tourist.. Yogic flying is not like Birdies.. Its like teleporting atoms and molecules sort of a thing. (Am I right ????? )
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| I just lost my mind ???? Is it teleporting? or astroprojection or just flying lke a bird???
When I thought of Rev. Mihindu who brought buddhism to Sri Lanka (Who attained Asrhat state).. Its like teleporting .. but yogi's flying what people talk in the net is flying like a bird...
by the way I found this about 5th Siddhi
5. VAYU GAMAN SIDDHI
Through this Siddhi a person can become capable of flying in the skies and traveling from one place to another in just a few seconds. The Jain scriptures speak of Jain ascetics who could fly from place to place in a few seconds. Swami Divakarsuri and Swami Pragyasuri have been such accomplished ascetics. Although there are several occasions of individuals flying reported in the Sutras of classical Buddhism and Zen, the Venerable Pindola Bharadvaja is probably the person most commonly cited. For the movement or cross-transference of items between the conventional plane or physical plane and other possible environments see Apportation Revisited.
Swami Vishuddhanandji (d. 1937)(sometimes spelled: Vishuddhananda, Vishudhanandaaka; aka: Gandha Baba, Perfume Saint), well-known for his supernatural powers and said to be an adept associated with the mysterious Gyanganj (Jnanaganj) hermitage somewhere in Tibet -- a secret place of great masters -- demonstrated this practice in Varanasi and proved that it is not a myth.
Today Yogi Chaitanya Swami of Madurai and Yogi Niranjan Swami living near Kanya Kumari are the Yogis who have accomplished this practice. But it seems that this knowledge shall perish with them. See the Wanderling's Journey as well as The Sun Dagger and Carlos Castaneda.
Laghima Siddhi - The ability to make one's body lighter than air and fly at will. The perfection of this siddhi enables one to travel on the sun's rays and enter into the sun planet.
LAGHIMA: TO HAVE NO WEIGHT. Laghima is the control of the effect of the earth's attraction on the body by developing in each cell the opposite (centrifugal) tendency. Said to be implemented for the performed act of levitation, the Vayu Gaman Siddhi and the Laghima Siddhi. According to one of the eighteen main Puranas, the Markandeya Purana, Laghima means "to have an extreme speed."
And there were few more articles I found such as . "Do you think flying in the sky is magical?
I will show you some spectacular acts."
Thats some thing related to Zen Buddhism I think. which I have noi clue about
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| Thushara - I htink when the Transcendental Meditation people talk about yogic flying, they mean levitation rather than teleporting. They are attempting to move the physical body off the earth a few feet, not teleporting or astral projecting. I was amazed at how much of that stuff Paramahansa Yogananda talked about in Autobiography of a Yogi. His gurus seemed to like astral travel! |
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Well, once a yogi develops Siddhis, almost anything is possible,
including what amounts to teleportation. There's a long section on
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| anya sharvani - 2005-09-08 9:45 PM
Also sounds like a mental hospital!! : )
Also Sounds like you are the very 1st Patient ! 
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| Bay Guy - 2005-09-08 9:33 AM
Well, once a yogi develops Siddhis, almost anything is possible,
including what amounts to teleportation. There's a long section on
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| Thushara - 2005-09-07 10:42 PM anya sharvani - 2005-09-08 9:45 PM Also sounds like a mental hospital!! : ) Also Sounds like you are the very 1st Patient ! Hey!!! |
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| You got to be kidding.. I love to have supernatural powers ... WOOOWWWW I will t-port myself everywhere and no body will be able to catch me... YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING GREEN JELLO You dont have to be in loong ques for flights and eat those yackky food., you dont have to drive ....and get stuck in the traffic... OMG can you just imagine....
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| GJ The Siddhis are distractions!! Focus, people! |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | This came from an article by Swami Jyotirmayananda, International Yoga Guide, Aug. 2005
He says;
By practicing certain forms of Samyama, a yogi can acquire various psychic powers such as materialization and dematerialization of the body, levitation, thought reading, extra-sensory perception, invisibility of the body, and many miraculous powers that are inconceivable to the normal mind.
However, if a yogi becomes interested in these psychic powers or siddhis, he deviates from the path leading to Liberation. Further, if he lacks vairagya or dispassion, he may become vain and deluded because of his psychic powers. And then, by the misuse of psychic powers, he falls from the lofty ideals of Yoga.
Patanjali Maharshi says, "These siddhis are obstacles to the attainment of the highest samadhi because they continue to externalize the mind." On the other hand, one ascends the heights of samadhi and ultimately attains Liberation. |
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| Read this article..
Stage One Yogic Flying can be described as ‘hopping
like a frog’. Stage Two is flying through the air for a
short time. Stage Three is complete mastery of the
sky. Jackie Stevens investigates the mystic practice..................
http://www.kindredspirit.co.uk/articles/pdf6708-Yogic-Flying.pdf
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When the time came for us to learn to levitate, none of us really believed we would do it. I knew intellectually that levitation was humanly possible and I was hopeful I would be able to do it...........
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewcolumn.php?id=36
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| Hey Thushara:
If you fly to Virginia at your own cost, I shall teach you how to fly back to your place, with Yogic Flying. It should at least cost that much.
Neel Kulkarni
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| Are you serious?? Or are you kidding me? I can come to US when I have a project ., Im serious.
Do you know that yogi or the course which I mentioned above???
BTW Kulkarnn its so nice talking to you after long time. How many of your students are in the space at the moment ?
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| Dear Thushara:
If you come for the purpose of your project purpose, then you would not learn Yogic Flyiing. Because, that needs extreme concentration. I am sure your concentration on your project matters is more than your Yoga Practice. If that is true, please tell GreenJello. Now, if that is true, GreenJello is going to call me Telepathic. I am glad that GreenJello is reading my postings even if she considers them spurious, I am sure eventually she will benefit from them.
But, both you are GreenJello try to understand the humor in my past posting. Humor is always spurious.
Love and Peace
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| Now, I can talk more frankly (I hope Thushara is a girl) due to GreenJello. I myself travel by planes. However, I know Yoga Flying is true, but should not be talked about much.
kayaakaashayoh samba.ndhasa.nyamaat laghutoolasamaapatteshchaakaashagaman.
(Patanjali. 3rd chapter)
On making samyama on the relation between body and the space in which the body resides, and on making concentration on cottonlike substance called laghutool, one gets an ability to fly in the air.
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| kulkarnn - 2005-09-16 12:38 AM
Now, I can talk more frankly (I hope Thushara is a girl) due to GreenJello. I myself travel by planes. However, I know Yoga Flying is true, but should not be talked about much.
kayaakaashayoh samba.ndhasa.nyamaat laghutoolasamaapatteshchaakaashagaman.
(Patanjali. 3rd chapter)
On making samyama on the relation between body and the space in which the body resides, and on making concentration on cottonlike substance called laghutool, one gets an ability to fly in the air.
neel kulkarni
www.authenticyoga.org
Oh Sometimes its difficult for me to understand whether somebody is kidding me or serious.. specially in English.. yeah.. I think it will come with practice.
Kulkarnn, what I cant understand is., that you say Yogi flying is true., YES I BELIEVE THAT TOO. But why you say that you shouldn’t talk about it much? that’s exceeding normal human limitations.. I love to get to know more about that.
But I dont think that article which I pasted gives right info., Ok that yogi can fly we will say., how come a newbie who goes to the class experience the same??? that newbie has not come to that particular state.
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| Dear Thushara:
1. Why not I talk about Yogic Flying? - I am doing it now!!! It is true and was used by Yogis only when the emergency was felt by them (I can not define what emergency means) and when the other modes of transportation did not exist, such as planes now. In fact, the planes existed long ago. They are mentioned in various texts. And, these planes may not be same as today's jets which take you thousands of miles. But, the planes existed. The word Wimaana existed thousands of years ago, and mean airplane.
2. I am sorry, but I did not read the article you posted. If your article means, TM Yogic Flying, that is an ordinary frog like jumpic and not Yogic Flying. You can call it yogic if you like, without anyy harm. When one's mind is under sufficient control one can manipulate prana aspect of one which is more powerful than the gross body. When the prana is modified in a way where body is lifted, that is called Frog Jumping. If you want to do it, feel free to meditate for such a goal.
3. If you are very interested in it, you should start practicing now. There is nothing you have to learn more. You should give up all other activities as much as possible and meditate with that goal in mind. Eventually, you willl reach there.
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| Thanks a loot kulkarnn.,
1. Yeah I know what you mean., you are right., Even Ramayanaya talks about such things right? Like Airplane
2. Yeh its basicaly frog jumping what they explain. (As how I understood)
3. Im asking too many questions about this because Im quite interested in these stuff. But no I cannot have this as the main objective and meditate towards that goal . But I really believe in Yogic flying and people laugh at me when I say this
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Thushara - 2005-09-19 2:28 AM
But I really believe in Yogic flying and people laugh at me when I say this
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| I use to do the Transcendental Meditation technique which is a form of mantra meditation at the level of thought. Later I learned the Siddhi's (powers of yoga) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
The flying technique is basically one of many sutras brough out by Patanjeli, an ancient Yogi, who claimed that anything you could dream or imagine one could accomplish in the physical
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My experience with the flying technique while in deep meditation - the state of no thought - after bringing in the 'flying sutra', was that one expected, at that instant, fully to 'fly' or take off.
The result however was what one observes as 'hopping'....but this has no relation to one's inner state when one normally only intends to jump in the air.
The Sutra for flying is in any book freely availabe that lists the sutras for the powers of yoga or 'siddhi's'. However the sutra must be delivered or thought in a state of pure/innocent state of consciousness otherwise known as the transcendental state (deep meditation). |
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soul traveller - 2007-05-29 6:17 PM
I use to do the Transcendental Meditation technique which is a form of mantra meditation at the level of thought. Later I learned the Siddhi's (powers of yoga) as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
The flying technique is basically one of many sutras brough out by Patanjeli, an ancient Yogi, who claimed that anything you could dream or imagine one could accomplish in the physical
world.
My experience with the flying technique while in deep meditation - the state of no thought - after bringing in the 'flying sutra', was that one expected, at that instant, fully to 'fly' or take off.
The result however was what one observes as 'hopping'....but this has no relation to one's inner state when one normally only intends to jump in the air.
The Sutra for flying is in any book freely availabe that lists the sutras for the powers of yoga or 'siddhi's'. However the sutra must be delivered or thought in a state of pure/innocent state of consciousness otherwise known as the transcendental state (deep meditation). |
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| I did TM it for over 12 years but since then I have moved on to a more of what I would consider a spiritual path. Most of what I do now involves contemplation on the sound and light.
Doing the flying thing was enjoyable but as all things in life 'the things that you spend your time on is where your development will be'. So I figured that learning to 'fly or levitate' would be interesting but maybe not that important!
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| soul traveller - 2007-05-30 1:56 AM
....but the movement to different planes of action gives one the ability to burn off more karma and evolve faster spiritually. ??? |
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| soul traveller - 2007-05-30 1:56 AM
I feel that developing any power can be a distraction away from one's true path....mostly because it takes way too long to perfect.
====> Now, you are talking!!!
Yes! but the movement to different planes of action gives one the ability to burn off more karma and evolve faster spiritually.
===> That is true only if you do not create more karma while doing so.
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This is why the teachers of these techniques always insist on specific prerequisite's before initiation.
I had to follow a lacto-vegetarian diet and abstain from alcohol, drugs and sexual relations (outside of marriage) for six months before my initiation as well as vowing to continue to abstain from them after as well.
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| What is described as "siddhis" in yogic terms is real, yet also depends on one's perception of reality. What is this "reality" thing anyway? It is maya and siddhis are not different. Chasing after, or wielding what some refer to as "supernatural powers" will lead one away from the ultimate goal. With great powers comes great responsibility and wielding them builds up great karma accordingly.
Siddhis come along on the path. The true yogi will see them for what they are.
Bottom line: forget about them and follow the advice given in the scriptures.
Your humble layman-in-the-yoga-world,
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| Yes I have! I have been instructed in the Maharishi TM Siddhi's program and I practiced the techniques for a number of years. |
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| soul traveller - 2007-05-31 2:20 AM
It is possible to reduce one's karmic debt load in the dream state. Usually with the assistance of a true master.
True Master is truely not interested in doing this. True master may do it in a rare case, but does not do this as a regular practice. |
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Location: A Blue State | jonnie - 2007-05-30 8:20 AM Exactly. I had to follow a lacto-vegetarian diet and abstain from alcohol, drugs and sexual relations (outside of marriage) for six months before my initiation as well as vowing to continue to abstain from them after as well. Jonathon uuuhhh ... I imagine that your wife is pleased that you abstain from extramarital sexual relations... ..bg |
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Location: A Blue State | I think that flying in TM is quite normal -- I go all over the place when I'm in that state... I am out of body as I do this, at least, so far as my mental state is concerned. However, I think that the idea that yogis develop the ability to fly in any physical sense is rubbish -- puranas, sutras, and other literature not withstanding. I will of course change my mind if I ever observe such a phenomenon. .. bg |
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| I agree with Brother BG that a miracle or miraculous power can only be completely believed ONLY when one has experienced it. The problems, however, are as follows:
- In Sutras, this power is supposed to be gotten when sanyama is mastered. And, only the one with Sanyama mastered can know whether power comes or not.
- When sanyama is mastered, it has to be used in the context of a particular power as described in the sutra.
kaayaakaashayoH sambandhasanyamaallughutuulasamaapatteshchaakaashagamanaM...
- And, one who has that power may not display it.
Now, if one wants to follow the sutras, one has to practice sanyama. One who practices sanyama has to trust in the sanyama.
And, then when one trusts in sanyama, one lands up in Trusting associated powers coming from sanyama.
Thus, in philosophy, and Yoga Practice based upon that: Trust, called Shraddhaa, is an essential element.
Bay Guy - 2007-05-31 9:50 PM
I think that flying in TM is quite normal -- I go all over the place when I'm in that state... I am out of body as I do this, at least, so far as my mental state is concerned. However, I think that the idea that yogis develop the ability to fly in any physical sense is rubbish -- puranas, sutras, and other literature not withstanding. I will of course change my mind if I ever observe such a phenomenon. .. bg |
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| Bay Guy - 2007-06-01 5:45 AM
jonnie - 2007-05-30 8:20 AM Exactly. I had to follow a lacto-vegetarian diet and abstain from alcohol, drugs and sexual relations (outside of marriage) for six months before my initiation as well as vowing to continue to abstain from them after as well. Jonathon uuuhhh ... I imagine that your wife is pleased that you abstain from extramarital sexual relations... ..bg
If I didn't, she would cut my head off 
What I meant was, that a condition to initiation was no sex outside of marriage, and at this time I wasn't married. |
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| I saw a show on this. The TM people said that they were only at the level of hopping. But it asked shouldn't Maharashi be at the level of flying. They showed them doing the hopping and it is just like how you would do it from a lotus position. You lean forward and start falling forward. Then you arch up and that makes you go off the ground and go forward.
It sounds to me that they read about it from old days and figure that some day they can do it also but it ain't happening. What is better than flyng is to feel perfect peace and limitless happiness. See the short article What is Enlightenment. |
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True Master is truely not interested in doing this. True master may do it in a rare case, but does not do this as a regular practice.
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Generally I think you are right. However the master does not take on the karma of the chela/student by removing it but only 'directs it' in order to help the student remove all karma himself.
The dream worlds having more of the sound and light (of god) can be considered more real
than the physical reality .
http://eckankar.org/
I did not want to stray from the topic of this forum: 'Yogic Flying'
so I am wondering what the definition of Sanyama is in practical terms.
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Hello this is my first post. I would like to add some knowledge about main topic and repley ask about Samyama. So this is what I know.
Samyama is the finer tool (Yoga Sutras 3.4-3.6)
There is Dharana (concentration).
Concentration is the process of holding or fixing the attention of mind onto one object, place or aspect for long time without any distraction. Dharana is the sixth of the eight rungs.
There is Dhyana (meditation).
The repeated continuation, or uninterrupted stream of that one point of focus is called absorption in meditation (dhyana), and is the seventh of the eight steps.
There is Samadhi.
When only the essence of that object, place, or point shines forth in the mind, as if devoid even of its own form, that state of deep absorption is called deep concentration or Samadhi, which is the eighth rung.
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The three processes of dharana, dhyana, and samadhi, when taken together on the same object, place or point is called Samyama.
DHARANA + DHYANA + SAMADHI = SAMYAMA
Its like focusing 3 lenses or 3 lasers into one perfect beam of light.
Through the mastery of that three-part process of samyama, the light of knowledge, transcendental insight, or higher consciousness (prajna) dawns, illumines, flashes, or is visible.
That three-part process of samyama is gradually applied to the finer planes, states, or stages of practice. It could be used on any psyhic powers to penetrate their true nature - and thus to gain counsiousness control about them.
By the mastery over udana, the upward flowing prana vayu, there is a cessation of contact with mud, water, thorns, and other such objects, and there ensues the rising or levitation of the body.
By Samyama on the relationship between the body and space (akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through space can be attained.
On making samyama on the relation between body and the space in which the body resides, and on making concentration on cottonlike substance called laghutool, one gets an ability to fly in the air.
Lord Krishna states that:
"For a sage who has conquered his senses, breathing and mind, who is self-controlled and always absorbed in meditation on Me, what mystic perfection could possibly be difficult to achieve?" (SB 11.15.32)
"on Me" means higher SELF (or union with GOD) with is an ultimate state of mind, full of light, radiating, shining, clear counsciousness, sharp like diamond razor - it is each one of us: oneness, moksza, buddhi, emptiness etc. |
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iddhi
iddhi is a Buddhist term which refers to supernormal powers. These powers are physical, as opposed to mental (knowing the minds of others, etc...). It is also referred to as iddhipatihariya, literally meaning "power of transformation". These iddhis are mentioned throughout the pali canonical scripture.
Gautama Buddha describes the following as iddhi powers:
* Multiplying the body into many and into one again
* Invisibility
* Passing through solid objects as if space
* Ability to rise and sink in the ground as if in the water
* Walking on water as if land
* Flying through the skies
* Touching anything at any distance (even the moon or sun)
* Traveling to other worlds (like the world of Brahma) with or without the body
This is what Buddha said when talking with Ananda (this conversation is breath-taking):
"Ananda: It's awesome and marvelous that the Blessed One should have direct experience of going to the Brahma world by means of supranormal power with a mind-made body, and of going to the Brahma world by means of supranormal power with this very physical body, composed of the four great elements.
The Buddha: Tathagatas are both awesome, Ananda, and endowed with awesome qualities. They are both marvelous and endowed with marvelous qualities. Whenever the Tathagata merges his body with his mind and his mind with his body, and remains having alighted on the perception of ease and buoyancy with regard to the body, then his body becomes lighter, more pliant, more malleable, and more radiant.
Just as when an iron ball heated all day becomes lighter, more pliant, more malleable, and more radiant; in the same way, whenever the Tathagata merges his body with his mind and his mind with his body, and remains having alighted on the perception of ease and buoyancy with regard to the body, then his body becomes lighter, more pliant, more malleable, and more radiant.
Now, whenever the Tathagata merges his body with his mind and his mind with his body, and remains having alighted on the perception of ease and buoyancy with regard to the body, then his body rises effortlessly from the earth up into the sky. He then experiences manifold supranormal powers."
Buddha continued:
"Having been one he becomes many; having been many he becomes one.
He appears. He vanishes.
He goes unimpeded through walls, ramparts, and mountains as if through space.
He dives in and out of the earth as if it were water.
He walks on water without sinking as if it were dry land.
Sitting crosslegged he flies through the air like a winged bird.
With his hand he touches and strokes even the sun and moon, so mighty and powerful.
He exercises influence with his body even as far as the Brahma worlds.
Just as a tuft of cotton seed or a ball of thistle down, lightly wafted by the wind, rises effortlessly from the earth up into the sky, in the same way, whenever the Tathagata concentrates his body in his mind and his mind in his body, and remains having alighted on the perception of ease and buoyancy, then his body rises effortlessly from the earth up into the sky. He then experiences manifold supranormal powers...even as far as the Brahma worlds." |
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| 1. IDDHIVIDHA - THE POWER OF TRANSFORMATION.
The Buddha said "If a monk should frame a wish as follows: "Let me exercise the various magical powers, let me being one become multiform., let me being multiform become one, let me become visible, become invisible, go without hindrance through walls, ramparts or mountains as if through air, let me rise and sink in the ground as if in the water, let me walk on the water as if on unyielding ground, let me travel through the air like a winged bird, let me touch and feel with my hand the moon and the sun mighty and powerful though they are, and let me go without my body even up to the Brahma world," then must he be perfect in the precepts (Sila), bring his thoughts to a state of quiescence (Samadhi), practice diligently the trances (Jhana), attain to insight (Prajna) and be frequenter to lonely places." |
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| And this all descriptions of technics and practices is just a begining on the way to attain yogic flying siddhi. Its just a theory of how to practice it, and now you must do the whole thing alone to gain it. I'am myself in that point. Not mere reasoning or intelectual understanding of this subject is enough to attain it - you have to go beoynt it and by deep insight experienced it on the highest level. This is the hardest. I wish I could find a teacher who can guide me well and teach me properly how to accomplish this goal. And I think I would be unable to learn it from someone who himself havent mastered it. Its the trust and believe case.
Edited by Planetar PL 2007-07-24 9:59 AM
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| Daniel:
Unless you post some pictures of people flying, this thread is pretty open to BS. |
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| Jumbo what do you mean by saying BS? What is it? Speak more cleary - not everyone has english as a first language (as you can see by my errors in writing - and I sorry for that).
And how I suppose to present you an picture here - how to add a picture? I could show you picture but for what purpouse? If you see picture you will request video. If you see video you will request to see it by your own eyes. And so on. That is the nature of ever doubting mind. Besides I need not proof you anythink this is not a case of this topic - to proof someone somethink - as far as I understand.
If you asking me: Is levitation of body possible? I answer: Yes it is.
If you asking me: Is TM program could teach you how to levitate? I answer: I doubt. It is just hoping like a frog. It is a power too ... but a lesser one and undevelopment. Dont suggest about them and dont make a hasty resolution like: Levitation is true/fraud. To learn how to levitate you need extraordinary work inside your mind.
Edited by Planetar PL 2007-07-25 6:42 AM
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| Good answer
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| Perhaps it's possible to levetate or at least as Frank Sinatra sang:
Come fly with me, lets fly lets fly away
If you can use, some exotic booze
Theres a bar in far bombay
Come fly with me, well fly well fly away
Come fly with me, lets float down to peru
In lama land, theres a one man band
And hell toot his flute for you
Come fly with me, well float down in the blue
Once I get you up there, where the air is rarefied
Well just glide, starry eyed
Once I get you up there, Ill be holding you so near
You may here, angels cheer - because were together
Weather wise its such a lovely day
You just say the words, and well beat the birds
Down to acapulco bay
Its perfect, for a flying honeymoon - they say
Come fly with me, well fly well fly away
Good luck to you on your journey Danial |
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| Nice song - thanks Jambo - I wish you the same. |
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