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Bikram's New Book
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ccyogini
Posted 2007-04-05 6:43 PM (#82454)
Subject: Bikram's New Book


Bikram's new book hit store shelves this week. It features Bikram in the 26 postures and 2 breathing exercises, along with detailed instructions that are a bit more palatable than in his previous editions. He also addresses the spiritual side of this yoga, which he is often accused of ignoring.

A good read, I highly recommend it for beginning and experienced practitioners.
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Cyndi
Posted 2007-04-05 7:57 PM (#82456 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book



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That's cool. I wonder if he addresses the temperature issue as well.  Like did he change his recommendation from 85-90 degrees to 105-120??  Hmm.. shall be an interesting read for sure.  Thanks.

Cyndi

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jonnie
Posted 2007-04-06 1:13 AM (#82474 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


ccyogini - 2007-04-06 2:43 AM

He also addresses the spiritual side of this yoga, which he is often accused of ignoring.



That will be an interesting read.
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Posted 2007-04-06 5:29 AM (#82490 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


From Publishers Weekly
Choudhury (Bikram's Beginning Yoga Class) has been called the "Bill Gates of Yoga," but readers may detect a bit of P.T. Barnum in this "hot yoga" showman. Born in India, Choudhury has lived in Hollywood since the early 1970s, when he founded his Yoga College of India. His brash style and personal wealth have drawn fire from the media and American yogis. His somewhat militant, "no pain, no gain" rhetoric and franchised, one-size-fits-all approach may seem contrary to the principles of yoga; Bikram claims his system is the most authentic yoga taught in the U.S. The Bikram Yoga sequence consists of 26 postures, two breathing exercises and brief resting periods performed in a room heated above 100 degrees. This method, Choudhury claims, can cure everything from physical injuries and serious illnesses to troubled relationships and spiritual poverty. Some readers may be put off by frequent name-dropping of famous students (Shirley MacLaine) and those who have received miraculous cures (former President Nixon). (Apr.)
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Posted 2007-04-06 5:30 AM (#82491 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


And a review from Amazon.com:

This book is incredibly readable and fun. Bikram's breezy tone and brash opinions grab your eyes and hold your brain, whether or not you think you have any interest in yoga. Actually this book seems particularly geared to non-practitioners.

The earlier chapters give historical background on yoga and Bikram's autobiography. The yoga history is highly slanted to Bikram's narrow view. Hey it is his book (and he won't let you forget that, believe me) - he can analyze the murky and heavily disputed history of yoga entirely as he pleases. The autobiographical material is very interesting, both for light on Bikram himself and also his excellent multi-cultural contextual scene-painting. We are learning about India as we go. And we are seeing our own culture strangely refracted, through Bikram's very perceptive lens. He has a sharp tongue though.

His basic message is that American culture is great in some ways but that individual Americans are mostly unhappy and messed up, mentally and physically. Fortunately there is a one-size-fits-all cure, a true panacea - Bikram Yoga.

Things Bikram Dislikes:

Tatoos
Exercise (running, tennis, aerobics, weights, team sports, ... fill-in-the-blank!)
Other styles and schools of yoga
Drugs - medical and recreational
Western medicine in general

Actually it is strange that he dumps on weight training, because he points out pridefully in another section that his own beloved guru was some kind of weight champion and pioneering promoter of the practice. Whatever.

He trashes the popular Iyengar style of yoga by sneering at the many mechanical props they use to control or achieve difficult postures. At least Iyengar came in for one full paragraph of dumping, while the extremely influential Ashtanga style is dissed off in less than one sentence as "'never existed in India" (which is a very odd claim, as the 91-year-old meta-guru of Ashtanga, Sri Patabhi Jois, has lived in Mysore, India his entire life and he learned starting as a young teenager from his own guru right there.) It is also odd that Bikram makes a big deal of his historical claim that there are exactly 84 asanas or postures in traditional yoga. Other respected analysts have come up with 608 or other numbers. Anyway, Bikram made his own sequence by choosing the best 26 out of his classical 84.

Bikram's sequence is much shorter than Ashtanga's Primary Series (not to mention the follow-on 5 additional Ashtanga series), and in practice it is simpler than Iyengar's posture perfectionism and mechanical molding. So in that sense, it is a good practice for modern conditions (he does teach his full set of 84 postures, to advanced students only).

His insistence that only his way is the "right way" to do Yoga reminds me of great Chinese masters of Tai Chi and Qi Gong (traditional breathing and stretching practices for energy cultivation). They ALL insist, just like Bikram, that only THEIR personal way is the universal right way. Almost every one of them has this same kind of ego. And every single one of them has students who would swear any oath that this one method is what cured them or enlightened them or conferred whatever benefit. Probably they are all right, in a sense.

Bikram goes on and on and on about how TOUGH his sequence is, about how, the very arduous postures combined with long hold times combined with the high heat turns the classroom into a Torture Chamber and so forth. But in fact his asana's are not noticeably more physically or psychically challenging than (for example) the Ashtanga Primary Series, in many cases far less so. And in Iyengar and Ashtanga yoga, asanas are held for extended periods.

He explains the famous high heat practice room on just a few pages, saying basically (a) it is done to re-create Indian conditions; and (b) it helps loosen up the body. That's probably fine, but various forms of yoga are traditionally done in Tibet and other cold regions - the high heat is not a fundamental requirement from their point of view. Maybe it does help some people loosen up more quickly.

A few quibbles:

- Only one photo per asana is provided, often at an angle that is very unrevealing and unusable for a beginner student's reference. For example, the photo for Posture #10 (Standing Separate Leg Head to Knee Pose) is at a head-on angle that obscures most of the body. Bikram does say you need to come to the school to learn, so maybe that is done purposely. Anyway, if you want to try the postures you'll need another book on Bikram to get anywhere.

- The descriptive text that accompanies each asana's photo is often not well synched with the single photo. For example, the text for Posture #12 Toe Stand says hold your hands in prayer position (except when steadying yourself for balance on the floor) but the model's hands in the photo are neither in prayer nor steadying position.

Anyway. I really like his spicy writing, and his enthusiastic attitude. And the most wonderful feature of the book is the constant interplay and dialog that he sustains between India and America, East and West - all his teaching is contextualized and you'll end up learning a tremendous lot about India and also (if American) about yourself, all in one nice package.

As for the specifics of Bikram practice, I'm sure it is no less beneficial to its adherents (and readers of this books reviews will eventually have a chance to read comments from many of them, I'm very sure) than all the other zillions of types of yoga, qi gong, tai chi, therapeutic dance, cross conditioning, and so on that decorate our spiritual supermarket. I don't think there's any one pure truth in this realm. Probably any therapeutic or spiritualized exercise that you are attracted to will work well enough - for you. And the highest spiritual masters of India, such as Ramana Maharishi, have stated that all spiritual practices are merely needless distractions and hamster-wheel spinning - as there is nowhere to go, and no goal to be realized.

I can only wonder if some version of Gibbon's comment on the Roman Empire's religions might apply:

"The various modes of worship, which prevailed in the Roman world, were all considered by the people, as equally true; by the philosopher, as equally false; and by the magistrate, as equally useful."
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kulkarnn
Posted 2007-04-06 9:02 AM (#82499 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


Thanks BBB. First time, a big post from a big brother. I am now scared of Review of my Potential Class or Classes in Austin Texas.
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ollie
Posted 2007-04-06 9:58 AM (#82506 - in reply to #82499)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


kulkarnn - 2007-04-06 8:02 AM

Thanks BBB. First time, a big post from a big brother. I am now scared of Review of my Potential Class or Classes in Austin Texas.


Austin, Texas, is my home away from home. When will you be there?

ollie
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Posted 2007-04-06 10:14 AM (#82509 - in reply to #82506)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


DOn't answer Ollie Beloved Brother Neel--he won't let you know when he's there--it's a trick!
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ollie
Posted 2007-04-06 10:34 AM (#82512 - in reply to #82509)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


Bruce is technically correct; at this time I won't tell you when I'll be there. But I anticipate being there somewhere between 21-28 May, my deity (FSM) or Providence willing.



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kulkarnn
Posted 2007-04-06 11:40 AM (#82523 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


Dear Ollie:
I am extremely interested in gossiping (in a serious way!) Mathematics with you. I am also interested in touching BBB's feet as his blessings are very important for my success. And, if my classes are confirmed, I would like to know what I am supposed to teach!!! (I mean some kind of organized schedule, because I am disorganized in an organized way.)
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Bay Guy
Posted 2007-04-08 9:44 PM (#82768 - in reply to #82491)
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My, my.  I know I have fallen out of the loop when something like this takes me by surprise.

So, the big question for me:  Does Bikram make the same reprehensible comments about arthritis in this book as he made in his last one?  I saw that he cleaned up his web site on that topic, but I wonder whether he still proclaims that arthritis is a "disease of laziness"?

 .. bg

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yogabrian
Posted 2007-04-09 1:38 PM (#82839 - in reply to #82454)
Subject: RE: Bikram's New Book


I must say, after reading Bikram's new book, I was left dissappointed. I liked that he talked a bit about his history. I thought it was cool that he talked about Ghosh and actually liked that he talks about the mental powers of yoga.

I however did not really care for much of the book. He rants and raves about how everybody else sucks expect him and his yoga. However, the examples of him doing yoga are aweful. He totes about being a yoga champion, but in the photos he shows(both old and new) he can barely do the poses. Also He does not show examples of many of the harder poses. At least Iyengar can still so his yoga.

I was really hoping that Bikram would put out a really good book. He is by far the figurehead of the Ghosh lineage. The system which comes from Ghosh is really a solid one. I am really looking forward to Tony's upcoming book on the Yoga Challenge. Hopefully it will be much better then Bikram newest one.

Edited by yogabrian 2007-04-09 1:47 PM
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