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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098   Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | HA HA HA Glenda, I bet you get more PM's that I do,   So, are you online, do you still want me to send you a PM and we can have our little private meeting or do you want me to send you an email with all the nitty gritty details??  | ||
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| Jambo... Okay seriously... There is no gossip that I know of. I get a PM here and there, I respond...that's pretty much it. Seems like we hash things out fully in public, doesn't it? | |||
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| Yeah, this whole thing is an odd mix of public/private. Not quite enough people to make all the threads formal and only on topic, but I like that. FWIW Glenda I get PMs from time to time. Generally it's stuff people don't want to discuss in public for various reasons. Sometimes you just need to vent, sometimes to give advice, sometimes to do those things I'm not allowed to talk about in a nice family thread....  | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 2479 Location: A Blue State | tourist - 2006-02-21 7:47 PM And BG you are right. Iyengar classes do include spirituality. But it is never mandatory or pushy (as far as I have ever seen, but then I like that aspect) and there is no requirement ot follow any dogma at all. I want to be in on gossip. Hardly anybody ever PM's me! I bet you are all talking about me behind my back, too  Honestly folks, don't take any of this to heart. It is just an internet message board. If you want rip roaring, spiteful, mean message boards, go to the Dancing with the Stars board or something like that. It is so horrible, it is hilarious. My favourite quote "the judging system is flaud." You will see that, at our worst, we are still pretty tame No, I can't see that anybody would put up with too much pushy spirituality, and it isn't in Iyengar. I'm not going to touch the dogma question because I'd have to define what is and is not dogma and that's just too hard. I've gotten a few PMs. One was asking me to promote a spaghetti sauce on these boards (in exchange for...some spaghetti sauce). I sent it to Piel. And just this week I got three PMs about Tourist. Just kidding.  | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Bay Guy - 2006-02-21 9:54 PM I've gotten a few PMs. One was asking me to promote a spaghetti sauce on these boards (in exchange for...some spaghetti sauce). I sent it to Piel. And just this week I got three PMs about Tourist. I got that sphaghetti one too BG. I didn't know what to do with it...in fact, i was like WTF?? Sphaghettti on a yoga.com?? Oh well, I did recently get one of an Indian Yogi, who is in India who found me on this forum. He sent me an email of himself doing some really interesting asana's...that I've never seen before. They were really good and no GJ, they weren't porno's!! He thought I was an expert yogi..hahaha. If I could do those asana's he was doing...then I would consider the expert yogi, Then everytime someone new signs on they send me one saying hi, those are always nice, I like those the best. Well, I just got a PM from Glenda, better go see what the hell she wants, Cya'll later. | ||
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| tourist: the mind boggles at the length of the post? i had a little over an hour to be on the internet. I was able to read three posts and respond to this one and start the one i had come to start in the first place. that's it. usually, i can get a lot more of yoga.com boards in that time, when i write shorter posts. but i think this topic is really interesting, in a lot of different directions, and therefore definately worth talking about from a number of different directions. as to the gym situation, i hear what you're saying, and i'm also going to be contrary. I don't like teaching in gym spaces, but i don't mind teaching in gyms. There are drawbacks--noisy, dirty rooms and low pay. But, there are also benefits--lots of eager students who wouldn't necessarily go to or pay extra for a studio, access to a gym facility (if you're like me, or my husband, and you like other aspects of gym facilities--i particularly like accesses to hot tubs and saunas), to name a couple. So, there are plusses and minuses to everything. part of the reason why i started teaching in gyms is because when i first started teaching, i wasn't 'allowed' to teach in the studio without a senior teacher present, or only as an assistant to a sr teacher. i could occassionally--and only if absolutely necessary--sub on my own. But, my teachers insisted that i needed to find opportunities to teach without them. occassionally, they would toss something my way--a 6 wk stint teaching at the local physical rehab center or hospital, or a one-day workshop for a teacher in-service at the local elementary school, or perhaps even the opportunity to work with a local sports team. But, generally, it was nothing too 'consistant.' And i started to think about what would be 'consistant' and so i checked out a gym near me. I paid to go to this gym (as i do like weight training, saunas, and hot tubs), and i thought that maybe they would add me in as a fitness class (this was generally before yoga was held in gyms). So, i asked them to, explained the benefits for their clients, and then got a job. I used the aerobics room, of course, and sometimes it was noisier and sometimes it wasn't. it depends upon the gym actually. There's one gym that i go to that's very clean, that's very accomodating to the yoga teachers (they have at least one yoga class a day at this gym), and it's also quiet, so i don't really have to use any music. But, there's no wall space what so ever for inversions, so that becomes partner work. But, other gyms are noisier. Some are "too noisy!" and i have to make complaints about it on a regular basis--talking to the instructor of that spinning class about turning the music down a decibel or two, and reminding the front desk to turn down the ambient music speaker that's right above the aerobics room door--then i'm able to use basic "om" or flute music or something light to give an adequate break for people. when i decided to move from part time teaching to full time, i also needed more volumn of classes to support myself. so, i went to gyms, as they were starting to develop yoga programs. i was able to 'sell myself' and yoga so that i could teach. I really just wanted to work--and yoga studios were notorious for incestuous hiring (that is, only hiring people that they trained--which hey, makes sense). So, it was hard to get into those doors. Around here, studios have a particular flavor--kali ray, bikram, baptiste, 'just astanga,' power yoga with a particularly athletic focus, forrest yoga, tantra yoga, classical yoga, and a pilates/yoga blend and a pilates/yoga/martial arts blend (where yes, classes are literally blended, as well as individual/separate). oh, and there's one school that now only teaches two asana classes a week, the rest of their classes are meditation, sanskrit, and mantra classes (interesting). They make most of their money training teachers--right now they're running an ayurvedic yoga series. it's actually a great class, but when i'm teaching. But, i digress. so what happens if you're not one of these "brands" or you don't fit in with a 'blend?' (because, seriously, i don't) basicly, these studios aren't hiring. I had my own studio for a while--we know what happened with that. I don't have the time/money to invest. And the studio where i work, he's seeking to develop and diversify, so i feel lucky that we have a similar feeling about things, and that he just lets me teach what i want. I'm on a number of sub lists for other studios, and when i show up to sub, there's always a list "remember, at this studio, we don't chant OM, and we don't do the following 5 postures EVER and we always make sure to do the following 75 postures no matter what, and in this order, and no prayer or reading either, unless the reading comes from this book, and only if it's on page 57..." so, i rarely sub either. so this leaves me with seeking out places to teach--the Y, the senior center, the basement of a church, someone's house, my house, or a gym. Not many of these places have 'ideal' yoga rooms, but when the classes start to take off, they start to have a little more respect for us, and give us space (in a sense of 'mental space') and that's great. So, i could wait for the perfect location, or i could teach yoga. I think i'll teach yoga, and learn how to adapt the location so that it's functional. It's not perfect, but it doesn't have to be perfect. It just has to be what it is. and as a policy, i stay away from gossip as much as i possibly can. most the PMs i get are either about things that i've posted (a person wants more information or direction), or stuff that is encouraging (for both parties). so, i've never really had a negative PM experience. and i strive not to send negative pms. | |||
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dhanurasana - 2006-02-22 2:07 AM z-bird says: Americans will hug strangers this is true, but i find that hugging has become something of an empty gesture in our culture. don't get me wrong, i like hugs. i give sincere hugs pretty frequently, y'know? but how often do you get one of those weak, one armed hugs..i just have to shudder... how long has this been going on, this practice of hugging? i bet you didn't hug someone in the fifties. you gave them a firm handshake, maybe tipped your hat. it'd be cool if people still wore hats. fifties hats. I'm not a big (non-family) hugger in everyday life, but once the Dead shows come into town, it's hug city with the wookies.  | |||
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mishoga - 2006-02-22 9:59 AM What a nice world this would be if all children were taught from a very young age the proper way to conduct themselves and respect themselves. Isn't this what parents are for? | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | Jeeze - I didn't even get the spagetti spam! It must be the Canadian thing - we just eat bacon and drink beer after hocky and curling - never spagetti ZB - I have always had visions of your keyboard smoking as you type I took drama in jr. high instead of typing. Who knew we would all be living on our keyboards by now back in 1968? Thanks for all who replied to the gym comments. I absolutely understand why people teach in gyms (but why the heck are they so dirty??) and probably would be doing it myself if there wasn't such a big Iyengar community here. The comment was intended to raise awarenss and help us examine why we are accepting a situation we don't care for (see, I am spolied because I have a hot tub at home to go to after class ) and maybe take a look at some options. Sometimes there are possibilities out there that we simply have not considered or not had time to consider. Putting it out there to think about will help us decide if this is the best thing or if it is just the easiest (for now or for always) thing. And ZB, I think we know that you in particular will pretty much never choose the path of least resistance! I sure wish we could see all the posts in a thread when replying. Does one of the other post viewing options let you do that? Sharon. I have a pretty good grip I was a little on edge last night for some reason although it wasn't clear to me why or even accessable to me consciously, but it did come up in the rest of the evening as well DH let me know  I was mainly making the point that a simple word can have huge connotations for someone that may not be intended by the OP. I think I explained how I read "popular" but probably the dictionary would agree with your use of it, as both styles of yoga you mention are practiced by a very large segment of the yoga population. Ah yes: "Accepted by or prevalent among the people in general" is listed but also: "Fit for, adapted to, or reflecting the taste of the people at large." So my take on teh word was correct but I am guessing you mean the first one. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Dhanurasana, I read your post about hugs and it made me chuckle. When I first met my ex husband's family, they loved to give out hugs and kisses on the cheek. I was totally not used to that. Eventually, I did learn to tolerate it, but it wasn't until my Mother died, that I realized what a true *hug* was. I had 3 people close to me pass away during that time of my life. My Aunt, My Mother and my African Grey Parrot Max. When I hugged my Mother in the hospital once, there was this warm, energy that I cannot explain that radiated from my heart to hers. It was like a jolt of lightening experience, but not the kind that would kill you. It felt incredible, to the point it made me cry. Before that experience with my Mother, I had that experience twice before, once when my Aunt was dying, and when my parrot was dying he laid on my chest and I felt the same thing. At that time with these 2, I brushed it off. My Mother however, was the one that turned on the light for me and it was her death experience that opened up a totally different world for me. She showed me so many things before she parted this earth, it was so incredible. Later on in my life I have met people over the years who have given me a hug and I felt that heart to heart connection. Some make me cry, some I just don't feel anything. When I met HH Dalai Lama the first time, I cried. When Wayne Dyer hugged me after his workshop, I cried. When one of my very first teachers (I don't call her a guru because she is an American and it doesn't fit her even though she really is one) I also felt that connection. It is very powerful stuff. So, these people that go around hugging for no reason, I try not to waste my time, I avoid it. I would rather hug trees, Now days, I don't have to hug, I can feel that person's vibration and you intuitively know. But, If I want a hug, I'll certainly go and do it!! The part about the Truth of Yoga finding its way or whatever...hmm?? That is interesting. I have lots of thoughts on that and disagreements with that generalized statement. I will say this is not Catholism and its not Sunday School Class. Perhaps with certain reactions to the Yoga industry like mine for instance.....There are beings that exist around us called the "Dharma Protectors". Anyway, it doesn't matter really because the Yoga in America is only skimming the surface of what true yoga is about. When you get tired of it, you will seek the truth if you are sincere. Incense and candles can only do so much and has its limits. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 1738 Location: right where I'm supposed to be | Jelloman, yeah, that's what parents are for but for some reason it doesn't always go the way it should. You live what you learn.  I'm off to instruct one of my music loving, candle burning yoga fest classes Manana peeps Mish | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | I agree that children should be taught them. I've contributed by teaching mine. Maybe one day when they are more mature they will share and maybe appreciate all I give to them. What a nice world this would be if all children were taught from a very young age the proper way to conduct themselves and respect themselves. AAhhh the Joys of Homeschooling, this is why I do it!! Teaching children the Yamas and Niyamas doesn't have to be grueling and it can be very subtle. For instance, I find it is better to be the example of the yamas and niyamas rather than teaching what they are. Especially with American children who need to be able to make their own minds due to the choices out there. Giving them the foundation is one thing, but ultimately they will have to decide what is best for them. My son who is 21 thinks all this yoga stuff is ridiculous. He is not crazy about going to the temple...however, he loves his Methodist church and attends very regularly. That makes me more proud, because he is living his truth and his path. My daughter is different because she is with me all the time. She is exposed to everything...she was in New York with me when we drove the lamas to NYC during the HH Dalai Lama visit, we spent 3 weeks in a Tibetan Buddhist Temple, we lived there. She also is exposed to the other temples we visit and whenever she is not with me, the priests get upset and ask, "Where is your daughter??, give your daughter this prasad (usually a flower and some fruit)". So, we don't have to make a big deal about this, we can just expose them and be the example, not necessarily drill into their heads with the intellect, but just simply be. It's more effective in this society and culture due to the other things they have to deal with and are exposed to on a daily basis..especially teenagers. My daughter's cousins call her all the time seeking out her unconditional friendship. Her cousins are 14 and 13, go to public schools and deal with so much. Once her cousin was being very mean and nasty to this girl at her school. My daughter got really upset with her cousin. She told her that she was out of line and should not do that, it was cruel and mean. My daughter has my blood in her, you think I'm outspoken, hahaha Her cousin calls her every day to check in and chat. She loves my daughter and out of all her friends at school, my daughter is her best friend and they live in the state next door - 3 hours away. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | mishoga - 2006-02-22 11:16 AM Jelloman, yeah, that's what parents are for but for some reason it doesn't always go the way it should. You live what you learn. That reminds me...how did your investigation with your son's computer go?? You never did come back and finish the scoop on that. Edited by Cyndi 2006-02-22 11:44 AM | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | That was not an attack...that was a question and it was a thread that was going on back in December if I recall. So, I reworded it from spying to Investigation...does that make you happy GJ?? I will only do this one time, the change in my wording that is. In the future, if I wanted to attack someone, you will know it...and you will know it well, I'm very much aware of how much I can get away with and I am also aware of how I push close to the edge sometimes...I can assure you that my intentions is NOT to attack any one personally....my intentions are something greater than that. You just don't get it, yet...perhaps if you stay on a yoga path long enough, you might get a glimpse of exactly what I mean and where I'm coming from. Until then, just know, I'm not attacking, I'm just as sweet and kind as the next person...you just don't see that because you are always looking at the negative - that is all you see and not just with me either. Edited by Cyndi 2006-02-22 11:59 AM | ||
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| First. I loved the hugs story. I've always found it kind of odd and unconfortable when strangers hug me. I appreciate the new perspective on it. Maybe I'll react differently the next time. Sharon. I have a pretty good grip I was a little on edge last night for some reason although it wasn't clear to me why or even accessable to me consciously, but it did come up in the rest of the evening as well DH let me know I was mainly making the point that a simple word can have huge connotations for someone that may not be intended by the OP. I think I explained how I read "popular" but probably the dictionary would agree with your use of it, as both styles of yoga you mention are practiced by a very large segment of the yoga population. Ah yes: "Accepted by or prevalent among the people in general" is listed but also: "Fit for, adapted to, or reflecting the taste of the people at large." So my take on teh word was correct but I am guessing you mean the first one. Ah the dictiionary. One of my favorite books. I was a journalist for 10 years, but only managed 2 1/2 as a copy editor. As a copy editor words have to be very specific, because you have so little space. I was fond of using precise dictionary definitions to argue why a word was appropriate. Finally one of the older copy editors said to me: "You know, Sharon, the dictionary is the least common denominator." Words don't just have meaning. They have connotations. They bring out emotions. When I was writing as a reporter, I got in the habit of making words as neutral as possible, unless I had good reason to spice it up. And still people complained, because there's one variable you can't account for -- perspective. There's a group in Texas that endorses every Democrat, stands up for gay rights, and believes that taking money from rich schools and giving it to poor schools is the best thing since Reconstruction. I called them "liberal" in an article and they complained. "Liberal" is a bad word in Texas, she explained. It didn't seem to matter to her that they ARE LIBERAL. When I wrote "popular" I did it from my own perspective. Those forms are well-known and have a large number of followers. Perhaps they are not adapted to a the people at large, but they appeal to people at large or at least a large number of people who happen to do yoga. Ashtanga appeals to the segment that wants a class more like their aerobic or stronger classes. Iyengar appeals to those who want the opposite of their gym classes. But the way I read your post, you read popular as "fadish". A "fad", according to my dictionary is "a fashion that is taken up with great enthusiasm for a short period of time." So I told you to get a grip, because I thought you reading more into my post than I was writing. Edited by skatrenah 2006-02-22 12:05 PM | |||
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