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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098   Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | zoebird - 2005-09-27 11:48 AM most people aren't 'even.' different bodies will carry and hold fat in different amounts, in different places, and in different ways. Even two bodies of the same 'type' can be vastly different in how and where they carry their fat. So, the fat you have may actually be healthy (i don't know), and only being extreme (like cyndi's experience--my sister had the same) will allow you to be that small, but being that small may not be healthy. Well, I don't know about the extreme part, I don't consider myself extreme in my size 9,  , however, sometimes looking at my skinny bony little sister, I think she looks too frail. She is very strong and is a workout nut...she even has her own personal trainer. BUT, my sister is always the one to catch colds easily and she is always the first one to get stressed and/or wiped out with her stressful life and career. In fact, the way she has to balance herself leaves very little time for her to have family relationships and she treats everyone like a business...she's so very zen like. I'm the complete opposite from her. Sometimes I think my sister and I should have been joined together in one to make a complete human being,  Anyway, don't forget about the size of the bones and joints....I think this plays a big part in how you can distribute weight and how a certain weight gain or loss will look on you. One of the things that helps me more than anything with my weight is when I'm not focused on how I look and my weight period. When I take care of myself...mind, body and spirit, i.e. meditation, exercise whether it be walking, hiking or yoga (I don't do the gym) it naturally balances out. To me, that is the big secret of weight success!! Too much physical exercise without the right diet is bad, and too much diet of food while being sedentary is also bad...so, balance is the key. I think people need to find out what their happy balance is and then you will be successful at whatever you do. When your mind is content that is the biggest factor of all while in a human body. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Yes, it took many years to learn that I did NOT have to be like my sister, it was all in my head and mostly because she helped put it there with her judgements about my size compared to her's...not to mention she had the media, magazines to help back her up. My sister likes to compete as well and tries to be very dominating when it comes to size and clothes....which I came to the conclusion a long time ago after watching her and her daughter who has major eating disorders. My sister is very insecure, not very self confident and likes to control others. To me it is very sad and unfortunate. The good news for me is that I learned valuable lessons with my experiences, others may not be so fortunate - especially in this strange materialistic society. One thing is for sure, my breasts are mine and all natural...they are not fake and so is everything else on my body - natural that is,  | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | zoebird - 2005-09-27 3:59 PM my sister got it harder, because she is the 'heavy' one and my mom thinks that she should be a size 6 or so, rather than the 8-10 that she is. it doesn't make sense to me, just looking at my sister's body type which is the most obvious kapha i've ever seen. She's healthy and strong and looks great. I tell her this frequently and she's started to get the idea about her own body type and assert this when mom starts bringing things like diet and exercise up. Sure, her diet isn't perfect--whose is?--but it's good for her and it works and it keeps her healthy and happy. Zoebird, Being a heavier type does not necessarily mean that your sister is a Kapha type - unless of course she has been thoroughly diagnosed this way. There are other factors that involve determining your body's constitution besides the build and the weight. I am a size 9, 4 sizes bigger than my sister, but that does not make my dominate dosha a kapha, in fact, I am the opposite having dominate Pitta dosha. My sister on the other hand also has a dominating Pitta dosha as well, but her secondary dosha is kapha, then vata. Her dosha's are more balanced in nature than mine are in a lot of ways when it comes to handling life and financial stresses...(she has NO financial stress). Her secondary dosha being Kapha enables her to eat spicy foods, but even that has limits for her, she just doesn't realize it. BTW, she would kill me for talking about her like this and does not believe in anything but her western medicine, she thinks this is crap Mine on the other hand is Pitta, Vata then kapha. Due to having 3 major surgeries, my dosha's have a tendency to get out of balance easily when I'm stressed out, therefore, that is the reason I chose to live in the country and live a more peaceful settling life. My financial stress is much different because I am self employed in my own business and is a different kind of stress. My sister's dosha's when she wipes out with stress is a totally different story - she can't get away from it like I can, Your Mother sounds like me. After having the surgeries, my muscle tone is not good in these areas. Lately, I've been working with a Chiropractor who has really helped me in this area. My pooch pouch is due to Uterus issues of not completing my pregnancy with c-sections and of having to raise children in this wierd society that does not support and/or nurture family life very well. I don't tell Kristina to hold her abs in...instead, every time we go somewhere, I am the one always in the mirror asking, "Do I look fat?"...my kids and my husband make fun of me for always asking this of them, | ||
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| i'll try and find out. i'm in contact with a woman who wrote an article for Alternative Health magazine in regards to her experience at an ayurvedic clinic in india. she went from zillions of problems to total health in 6 weeks at a clinic. and i've seen other 'miracles' of this sort too from other sources. Certainly, just from tinkering around a bit on my own research, i've learned and experienced a lot of positives from 'general' ayurveda practices. I'd like to take my whole family over for treatment--dad has type 2 diabetes, mom has spastic colitis, sister has IBS. i don't have anything, but a good once-over wouldn't hurt. i will ask the gurukalam to see if they are setting anything up or will set something up. that would be a great opportunity. those who come to TJ usually are from India, but do not stay long. so disappointing. probably a visa matter. anyway. . .i'll check into it, thanks! i've also read about the school in NM and considered their home-study course. i just don't have the time for the internships and training either. There's a school in CA that interests me too and comes highly recommended--but i can't take there until i live there. . .which may be a couple of years. it's an amazing study. | |||
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You are so right, BrokenBallet. We are all so stupid. You are the only person who has ever had trouble losing weight, and the only person who has ever been frustrated by store sizes. Maybe if you posted some pictures, we could all finally realize how hideous you truly are, then we would stop trying to cheer you up.  | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | Jean! BB - have you ever watched "What Not to Wear?" When they get people who really do have problems finding the right sizes they basically symjpathize and then do what we are doing - tell the person to suck it up and keep shopping until they DO find something that fits better. Then, as we have said, they tell her to find someone who can alter the clothes to fit. And they also tell them to IGNORE the size on the label and find something that FITS without being obsessed with the number on a tag. We are all trying to be sympathetic here. Women especially have ideas about their bodies that play with their minds and goodness knows the manufacturers don't help by switching the sizes and what not. These are facts. It is what we do about it that makes the difference. It has been a week since you first posted. What have you DONE? Have you found a yoga class? Have you increased your walking program? I know you said you went running, but we are the yoga forum... | ||
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jeansyoga and tourist, BB, you haven't said what you like about your body. all youv'e done is tell us how "gross" it is. it's not healthy to hate yourself this much. and we are not telling you you CAN"T be a size smaller, we are telling you not to obsess about it. Edited by anya sharvani 2005-10-02 9:06 AM | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | Thanks anya One thing I forgot to say is that even at a "towering" 5' 2" I still have to hem my pants most of the time because I have a longish torso and shorter legs. When I have $ and don't shop at Winners (TJ Maxx down south, I think) I go to Eddie Bauer. I can wear their petite sized jeans and slacks right off the rack | ||
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tourist - 2005-10-02 10:55 AM Thanks anya One thing I forgot to say is that even at a "towering" 5' 2" I still have to hem my pants most of the time because I have a longish torso and shorter legs. When I have $ and don't shop at Winners (TJ Maxx down south, I think) I go to Eddie Bauer. I can wear their petite sized jeans and slacks right off the rack Whoa Stretch. how's the weather up there? i am 5'1" and have yet to buy anything off the rack. i have a small waist and a big back porch so i always have to get the waist taken in and the legs shortened. or, i buy the size smaller and do the robot walk. i wear mostly capri's (as pants) and skirts. platform shoes help too. | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | OMG!  I've worn "normal" sized capris as full length pants, too! Too funny. My SIL has a tiny waist and bigger in the hips and she has a heck of a time finding pants to fit, too. I think it was actually a bit easier when pants were higher waisted because they didn't gap so much all the time. I find I am having to take the lower waisted ones in a lot and I am not that hippy but have a decent amount of "junk in the trunk"  | ||
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this is what we need. a place to appreciate how wonderful and beautiful the human body is (in all it's forms) I like that I am short. it gives me good balance. i also appreiciate my muscly legs because i can really run when i want too. | |||
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BrokenBallet - 2005-09-30 8:58 PM I don't really like junk food though. If i eat anything like cake, muffins, ding-dongs, cookies, it makes me sick...so i dont really eat them a lot. And if i eat too much cheese ( i DO like pizza) it also makes me sick, so basically i only CAN have one piece without feeling like im going to puke. So to give up all that- it isn't really a big deal. this is good, because it means you already have an intutive sense of your diet. keep following that--as well as getting good nutritional information--and you'll have a healthy diet. And im kind of sick of everyone telling me, well maybe you cant be a size smaller...because YOU don't know my body. no, i don't, which is why i recommended a book. Since i'm not looking at you and i don't know you and i'm not taking you through a process that i take my clients through, i really couldn't say. But, i can say "read this book to find out" and maybe you can loose weight (and it will tell you how) or maybe you can't (and it will tell you to be healthy at that size). So, Read the book. And the petite section, does not give all the answers, they still are too long. then i recommend what i recommended before--get things altered. or, like jeansyoga said--get a sewing machine and do it yourself. i tried that and really i don't have the skill for it at all. so, i have to rely on others. It would be, easier if i was a size smaller..but i dont think any of you realize how hard it is, for someone of my height. Because even 2 inches taller then me, is infact a lot...because 2 inches DOES make a difference. And FYI i am not ignorant, you don't know how hard it is, to find a pair of pants..and realize it may be the perfect size length wise, but its too small hip wise. So then you go to a size bigger...and its legs are WAY bigger then the last size. ITS FRUSTRATING. no, you're right. i don't know how hard it is to find clothes. No one else ever has this problem. Only people who are 5 feet tall and size 9 have this problem. No one else does, ever. Never ever. It's never happened to me. It didn't happen to me when i was over weight, and it doesn't happen to me now that i'm the right weight. It never happened to me when i was growing up, and it won't happen to me as i grow older. The fact is, everyone has this problem because people are different sizes. My problem is that what fits in the waist and hips, is too short in the legs. And guess what--you can't get pants taken OUT. So, i have to shop and shop and shop. And what is worse is how the designs change every year. Last year, i found a pair of gap jeans that fit perfectly. They redesigned and now NONE of their new designs fit. I need new jeans and I can't find any (yet). And, the only pair that fits has such as huge 'fit and flare' that they look like bell bottoms--and it's not a look i prefer. So, it doesn't matter what size you are in which direction, it's going to be hard to find clothes that you like and that fit. So, it's better to like yoruself, then worry about whether or not your clothes are going to fit--because the feelings you have for yourself stay the same (or improve, or you have them longer) and the clothes change every season. As to the issue of ignorance, you're not ignorant because you can't find pants. YOu actually state your own ignorance--you don't know how to work out to achieve the results that you want. That's ignorance. And with that ignorance comes another ignorance--an assumption that your body, in a given form of exercise, will give you the results that you want. with knowledge about 1. body types and what type of body you'll have, you'll be able to gain a reasonable picture of what sorts of results you can achieve--because not everyone can achieve certain results. For example, one of my clients (and my husband's as he does the personal training side) is a very large woman. she's only 5-3, but she has a large frame and a lot of muscle (a lot of muscle!). When she first came to us, she brought in a picture of some super-thin, tiny tiny model and said 'i want to look like her!" and my husband and i said that unless she got a new skeleton and completely new muscles, it simply wasn't going to happen. We then found pictures of women more like her in shape and size, and set her on a path to fitness. she looks great and now competes in 'strong man' competitions and 'scottish games'--she has a lot of self esteem and also has problems finding pants. So, understanding body type is the first part--what sorts of results are possible and then you can think abuot what you want to achieve within that. ONce you know that, then you can start to look to the types of exercise that work for you and how they work for you--as well as the dietary and sleep information. This is the second part of your ignorance--not knowing how to work out for your body. So, you read the book, you learn about yourself, you learn about what sorts of results are possible, and then you learn how to exercise to achieve a healthy, strong body that will serve you well for your many years. And you find that you worry less about your pants, and that everyone goes thruogh the frustration of striving to find things that fit. 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