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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442      | Good advice for ashatangis, Yoga Guy, but we do a LOT of down dog before we get to chaturanga or up dog in Iyengar yoga. Most people with tight shoulders find it almost impossible to get any weight onto their legs. I speak from experience and compared to MANY of my beginning students I have shoulders like Gumby. Working with the hands at the wall gets into the shoulders and working from the ropes helps relieve the weight from the arms and wrists so the student gets a chance to work the pose without strain. And you are so right about the transitions! I was teaching down dog to plank to chaturanga to Level II students last week and the basic mechanics of it needs a ton of work. I cringe to think of people doing it in flow practices without good alignment  | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | Actually, I find the best way to learn the arm/hand/shoulder work in down dog is to use the wall ropes. That way you aren't so busy supporting your body weight it is easier to concentrate on getting the actions right. Why is chaturanga a Level II pose? Good question! Plank, I find easy and a good way to learn the shoulder blade actions and an ideal transition to chaturanga. The best reason I can think of for doing chaturanga is to learn all the actions for backbends. But yikes - a hard way to learn!  | ||
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tourist - 2005-06-12 12:50 PM Actually, I find the best way to learn the arm/hand/shoulder work in down dog is to use the wall ropes. That way you aren't so busy supporting your body weight it is easier to concentrate on getting the actions right. Why is chaturanga a Level II pose? Good question! Plank, I find easy and a good way to learn the shoulder blade actions and an ideal transition to chaturanga. The best reason I can think of for doing chaturanga is to learn all the actions for backbends. But yikes - a hard way to learn! I'll defer to you on that because I don't ever play with the ropes...but I'm really eager too. Hopefully soon, I'll start checking out some Iyengar studios and get to play with that. Although my point was that in reality, people's "Perfect" alignment goes out the window as soon as you add weight. It's like practicing a piece of music alone in your apartment all the time and perfecting it, then when you play a concert, the mere fact of having the pressure of an audience totally changes all the "perfect" practing that you did. Although all that practice without pressure is good and necessary, IMHO you have to combine it with pressure, weight, and other stimuli to really get the feel of it. Please explain more about chattaranga for backbends...and clarify if backbends are also level II poses. Curious. | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | Rope work is SOOOO fun! I hope you get a chance to do some soon  And absolutely the real feel of the pose comes from doing the full pose. It is great to look at different aspects of poses in isolation but then you have to go back and put what you learned into context. The question about chaturanga really got me thinking. My teachers would heartily approve! The actions learned are the working of the legs (calves toward heels, thighs to the ceiling), the lengthening of the lumbar (moving buttocks to heels without "jamming" the sacrum), stability of the torso (the bandhas), the lift of the sternum and the working of the shoulder blades to bring the dorsal spine in to the body. In Level II we do dwi pada viparita dandasana and urdhva dhanurasana (both from a chair), dhanurasana, salabhasana and up dog. Chaturanga builds strength in the key areas without actually getting into the back bend, which is where beginners tend to injure themselves. The "baby steps" toward those in Level I are down dog, vira I and prasarita paddottanasana. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 2479 Location: A Blue State | Yeah, that's it. Except not with the legs a metre apart like the guy in the photo!  And don't let the lumbar collapse that way, as Glenda says. Take some arch to the upper back and roll the pelvis too. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 2479 Location: A Blue State | I certainly agree with you about squat thrusts, although it's easy to see the similarity to Surya Namaskara. They are sort like Surya Namaskara after all the yoga is removed. | ||
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