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jubuliant
Posted 2005-12-09 11:45 AM (#38568)
Subject: OM?


So I have seen the OM symbol drawn without the little curve to the right of "3" and i have seen it with the curve...does this mean anything different... Am i making sense?
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-09 11:51 AM (#38570 - in reply to #38568)
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OM symbol with curve on the right missing, or any other part missing is incompletely drawn symbol. And, one with all parts is completely drawn symbol. But, the drawn symbol is a drawing representation of pronounced OM, which may or may not be complete depending on how one pronounces it.

Lastly, OM is a Sanskrit Language letter, and therefore should be written as it is found in that language, just like A is English (am I correct?) letter, and it should be written as found in English.

Neel Kulkarni
http://www.authenticyoga.org
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jubuliant
Posted 2005-12-09 12:03 PM (#38571 - in reply to #38568)
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I recently came across this om symbol without the curve and thought that it must have been drawn wrong just wanted to be sure i wasnt missing something. Thank you for the clarification. I always write it out as in OM or AUM, not as the drawing of the symbol. I have been wanting a tattoo for sometime now and Feel that the Om symbol is exactly what I want. thoughts?
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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-09 12:11 PM (#38572 - in reply to #38571)
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There is a South Indian version of OM which meaning stands for Creation of the Universe - I don't have the details right now about this, can post it later. This particular OM has 3 lines out to the side. They stand for Bramha, Vishnu and Mahesh (another name for Shiva).

There is also another OM that represents Shiva, and is usually worn by Shiva Devotees. It has 2 lines out to the side with a dot on top. The 2 lines represent Shiva's Eyes and the dot represents the Moon or Shiva's head - which is another story all in itself related with the Ganges River and how Shiva put the river in his head - which is also related to the moon.

Edited by Cyndi 2005-12-09 12:19 PM
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-09 1:45 PM (#38577 - in reply to #38568)
Subject: RE: OM?


Dear Jubu:
It is very interesting about your tatto wish. I myself thought of that idea once. As for my recommendation, see the third, that is the rightmost on the following:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=OM+symbol+picture+

Neel Kulkarni
http://www.authenticyoga.org
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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-09 1:50 PM (#38579 - in reply to #38577)
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Yes, the OM that is most common is the third one. If anyone never knew, it looks like Ganesha and I think it is Ganesha,
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-09 5:02 PM (#38588 - in reply to #38568)
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Yes Cyndiben. OM is Ganesha and Ganesha is OM in all respects. However, this can lead into a very big thread, so I say.

HariH OM tat sat.

Neel Kulkarni
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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-09 5:20 PM (#38590 - in reply to #38588)
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Well Neelbhai, since you put it like that, I guess that's THAT!!!

Heri Hera Shambo!

Edited by Cyndi 2005-12-09 5:25 PM
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jubuliant
Posted 2005-12-12 10:23 AM (#38699 - in reply to #38590)
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sorry but what do you mean by ganesha?
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tourist
Posted 2005-12-12 10:50 AM (#38710 - in reply to #38699)
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Ganesha is the elephant god.
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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-12 11:01 AM (#38717 - in reply to #38710)
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Ganesha is Shiva and Parvarti's son.
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-12 11:06 AM (#38718 - in reply to #38568)
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Since this will require a big class, I am going to be brief:

OM is the primal sound from which all other sounds in all languages are formed. This sound is experienced by the Yogi when he is meditating and reaches highest level of meditation before attaining liberation. The description of this sound given to others who have not experienced it in sound form, is given in a visual symbol, which is the one I emailed in the above post.

Now, deity meaning deva, meaning Gods (NOT one God as in paramatman), are also experienced the high states of meditation and their association with various functions in the universe is realized. When they are described to others, either symbols or even human figure is used. They can be worshipped in this symbolic form, and later the experience of actual deity is achieved in the meditative state.

Shree Ganesha is one such deity. And, Shree Ganesha and OM are identical in the final respect, not exactly in the Symbol form. But, even in the symbol form, there is a similarity, and that is significant.

Neel Kulkarni
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jubuliant
Posted 2005-12-12 11:07 AM (#38719 - in reply to #38568)
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ok but how would that relate to om?
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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-12 11:14 AM (#38722 - in reply to #38719)
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Jubuliant,

You should do a google search on OM and Ganesha. There's quite a bit of information on the web about this. There are so many stories about Ganesha and the relation to OM. There is also a story about how Ganesh became the Elephant and the reason his tusk is broken along with the fact that Ganesha is Shiva and Parvati's son. Good luck with your reading.

P.S. If you look at that OM, the third one Neel sent you, you can see Ganesha in the OM, but you have to have an open eye to be able to see it.

Cyndi
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jubuliant
Posted 2005-12-12 3:30 PM (#38754 - in reply to #38568)
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gotcha thanks
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-12 5:59 PM (#38772 - in reply to #38568)
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For all:

Now, let me tell an interesting and important thing to you, especially Cyndiben. Look at the Logo of Authenticy Yoga Sytem on my website. And, you will find that it has Shree Ganesha in it.

Dear Jubu: What I meant is: When the Yogi is highest level meditation, that is he is NOT in symbolic forms which you see for OM and Shree Ganesha, that time, the Yogi comes to know that they are identical.

Neel Kulkarni
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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-12 7:42 PM (#38780 - in reply to #38772)
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Of course...Satyam taught me the art of how to look at Ganesha,

Edited by Cyndi 2005-12-12 8:07 PM
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Bay Guy
Posted 2005-12-12 10:24 PM (#38799 - in reply to #38780)
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Om Sri Ganeshaya nama!

Ganesha is Omkara, he has the form of Om.

Ganesha sharanam, sharanam Ganesha.



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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-13 8:56 AM (#38822 - in reply to #38799)
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This is a test.
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-13 11:20 AM (#38835 - in reply to #38568)
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Now, you guys look at my logo and you shall find Shree Ganesha looking towards right in it.

OM Shree Ganeshaya NamaH



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Cyndi
Posted 2005-12-13 5:05 PM (#38865 - in reply to #38835)
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Well, I'm going to try and upload Neel's OM for him. So, here it goes. AAAUUUMMM,



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sideshow
Posted 2005-12-20 11:48 AM (#39283 - in reply to #38568)
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to further help you in your studies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
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Posted 2005-12-20 12:20 PM (#39284 - in reply to #39283)
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Beloved Brother Neel--the purple background in your logo--is that the Shree Ganesha to which you're refeering--to me, it looks like the bottom of a B-52 strategic bomber in flight at about 80,000 feet--coincidence? 
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kulkarnn
Posted 2005-12-20 9:56 PM (#39326 - in reply to #38568)
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BBB:
Do not always think in terms of war. Shree ganesha is: y letter is the trunk, and a letter, the right eye. And, the purple background is part of the Home Page of http://www.authenticyoga.org It is the peace symbol, I think from Woodstock.

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laurajhawk
Posted 2005-12-21 5:42 PM (#39380 - in reply to #39326)
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kulkarnn - 2005-12-20 7:56 PM

BBB:
Do not always think in terms of war.



Neel & Bruce -- I love you guys
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