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I think suspects is a better word than accuses  I cannot see any good reasons other than price, every country has good and not-so-good Yoga teachers including India, so there is no guarantee of quality based on country of origin. I just wonder why anyone would restrict nationality? Cheers, Scott PS edited because I type country wrong and it thought I was swearing! Edited by Arjuna Weeping 2006-09-27 8:18 AM | |||
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    Location: London, England | Hi all, I can see everyone's point of view, but i would like to say that in England, it would not be permitted to specify a preferred nationality in a job advertisement-if you tried to put that in a newspaper, you would be prosecuted under the race relations act. But of course, it's up to you who you hire. Personally, I would want to hire the best teacher available, irrespective of nationality, and would think that the best chance of this would be to advertise worldwide, and then take my pick. By the way, I'm not looking for a job in Taiwan Nick | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442   | Let's keep the conversation civil, folks.  I understand the desire to have "authentic" teachers from the place yoga was born. And perhaps there was a time when the only authentic teachings were from teachers from India. Over the past 30 years however, that has changed a great deal. There was once also a time where if a country wanted to pursue baseball, they would have insisted (and be truly justified in doing so) on an American coach. Nowadays it might be more prudent to look world wide as there are undoubtedly great baseball coaches in Japan, Puerto Rico, Cuba, etc. If you are looking for someone who walks and talks like and American to coach baseball, I guess you need to hire a white guy from Texas or New York, but it does not guarantee a good coach any more than hiring an Indian yoga teacher guarantees a great yoga teacher. Because now we have great, good, so-so and terrible yoga techers all over the planet.... But to get a good ice hockey coach, you still have to look in Canada  | ||
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Location: London, England | Hey Glenda, I hope I was civil-but then again, there are more fools and fanatics in England than anywhere else in the world, according to indianyogi, so I could be a fool too This conversation is obviously going nowhere fast, but have a look at these quotes by Jorg Haider, far rigth politician from Austria-father a nazi stormtrooper: "At least the third reich had a decent employment policy" "My party is not a direct descendant of the nazi party. If it was, we would have an absolute majority in Austria." And lastly "Do we really need 180,00 foreigners here when we've got 140,00 unemployed?" Now compare this last quote with what indianyogi has to say: "I do doubt the foreigners who teach in those yoga centres in goa , got work permits.This is happening in a country where there are millions of unemployed people. " That is scarily identical. Nick | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | This is funny you guys....this conversation made me think of our own situation here in the US....like I'm sure some outsiders are thinking that in order to be President of the USA...you have to be from Texas, love oil and pronounce "Amerikens" like this and wear cowboy boots.  Edited by Cyndi 2006-09-30 1:13 PM | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 1738 Location: right where I'm supposed to be | Wow, this is deep!  I think we all should take a deep breath and leave this be. We all have our own belief system. It seems it will remain that way too. Indianyogi will stand firm. So be it! It is what it is and nothing more! Mish | ||
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Location: London, England | Hi Mish, Ok Nick | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 1738 Location: right where I'm supposed to be | Morning Nick Shanti Mishy | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | "ahimsapratisthayam tatsannidhau vairatyagah" - When non-violence in speech, thought and action is established, one's aggressive nature is relinquished and others abandon hostility in one's presence. Yoga Sutra II-35 I try to steer away from quoting scripture, as it can turn into a bit of a lose-lose situation. But I thought this one was quite appropriate here. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5098 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | If its any consulation to anyone...I once had to deal with some Tawainese people here in the US. This Tawainese woman started a Tibetan Buddhist Temple and got all these Tibetans over from China and India to form this temple. They mainly did poojas for her business and anyone else who had $$ to pay for their dog and pony show. It looked good from the outside until you hung around the place for any length of time. They were awful to the Tibetans and treated them like slaves. The poor Tibetan monks had to sleep in a damp cold basement with 2 to each small room, on the floor using these so called Japanese mattresses that were paper thin and 1 bathroom that was always filthy with mold. One of the Tibetans was always sick. I used to take him to my TCMD to get treatments, he was so unhappy. Finally he got away. All they cared about the fact that they heard somewhere that the Tibetans would bring them good luck, prosperity and so on. They had these Tibetans performing all kinds of services with little pay. This one particular owner yelled and screamed at them. Once I witnessed her outrage myself. I pulled her outside and gave her a piece of my mind and told her to back off. I ended up severing my relationship with these people because it was heartbreaking and very disturbing to see this going on. My husband who is Nepalis/Indian, was totally disgusted with this group from Tawain (however you spell it!!). Oh well, guess they got tired of dealing with Tibetans now and are moving on to Hindu culture....beware, beware,  | ||
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| on my own personal reflections and experiences, i was thinking about this question of authenticity. this was an aspect that i was reminded of most quickly: when i first started teaching yoga professionally, i was really intimidated when i had indian students in the room. that is, when a person of indian descent would come to class, i would be really edgy. now, when a famous teacher (who was not indian) came to the studio, i wouldn't care. In fact, there were times when celebrities and celebrity yogins came to the studio and if our lead teacher couldn't teach it, he'd ask me because i was the only one not inimidated by it. I used to say "one butt in the air is always the same as the other." which is true--when everyone is in downward dog, all you see are colorful pants, not what race the person is, whether or not they're rich or poor, or anything like that.  but, i would find myself very nervous around indian people because next to them, i didn't feel "authentic." i felt like they were the ones living this tradition--with their heritage, their religious practices, even their race, one could say. it took a while, but one of the indian men in my class and i became good friends. he was raised in the US--he and his brother--and both married girls from india in arranged marriages. In many ways, his family was/is very traditional. His parents have retired from business (the sons taking over that business) and run the temple in our area. It's their cultural duty, i was told. in any case, after a time, i told him of my nervousness and my feelings of inadequacy and he laughed at me. he said that there isn't anything inauthentic about what i'm teaching--that i'm a good student and very respectful of the tradition. i ask questions and i admit when i don't know something. it was at this time that i was invited to join his family at various temple gatherings and it was they who decided i should teach yoga (asana and pranayama) at the temple every other week. I also attend pujas and lectures--any time i'm invited and it fits my schedule. I learn a great deal from them. I don't know how this bears on the argument, but it's a rather funny thing. I felt less 'authentic' as a yoga teacher because i, myself, am not indian. and yet, what my indian friends have taught me is that the ability to experience yoga doesn't care for race or sex or class or any other thing--it is available for all--and the ability to teach yoga isn't determined by these factors either. So, i thought that 'that" was interesting. | |||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 8442 | ZB - I had that experience early on imn my teaching. The young woman who came to my class came from a family who "practiced a bit at home" and she was frankly pretty inept and admitted it. It was a really fun class with a group of young women who were friends and my feelings of not being authentic were pretty much eased then. We also have an Indian student who I don't see often but has complimented me on my Sanskrit, which was very nice  Now, an Indian Iyengar student from Pune might put me into the heebie jeebies - I'll let you know if tha happens! | ||
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