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Location: right where I'm supposed to be | and Ashtanga. It's a little long but if you have the time, a interesting and entertaining read.
Enjoy!!!!
http://www.rebeccamead.com/2000_08_14_art_yoga.htm
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| Thanks,
this is quite good, there's a link to the actual article as well of course:
http://mysore.blogspot.com/2007/01/there-goes-mat-space-new-business-week.html
One thing though "When the school is closed, Sharath travels abroad". That's not true, he goes away even when the shala is open leaving Guruji and Saraswathi to take care of everyone.
Edited by DownwardDog 2007-01-22 9:07 AM
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Location: right where I'm supposed to be | OK, so it's been posted before???  Sorry if it has    |
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| No no it hasn't to my knowledge! My link is to something different!
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Location: right where I'm supposed to be | I clicked on the link "Help" at the bottom of the article on your link? Does that make sense Lead me to my link
Good article! I like reading personal accounts. |
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| Ah, I see - I was referring to the link at the top of the article where it says:
"The new Business Week article about the Ashtanga Yoga Research Institute is up."
http://businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_05/b4019088.htm?chan=search
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| In this link:
http://www.rebeccamead.com/2000_08_14_art_yoga.htm
Rebecca Mead writes as follows:
"The specific series of Ashtanga postures is said to have been depicted in an ancient manuscript made from leaves that Krishnamacharya found in Calcutta's library after being directed there by his yoga guru in the early nineteen-hundreds. The original manuscript no longer exists--it was, Jois says, eaten by ants--and opinions vary as to whether there ever was, in fact, such a manuscript. (A recent book published in India suggests that many yoga asanas bear a striking resemblance to the poses seen in British calisthenics, which were imported during the colonial period.)"
My question:
Does anybody here know the name, author, or other details of the above book? Yes I am fully aware that origin does not matter, as long as one benefits from the practice. Yes I am full aware of that.
But that is not my question. My question is:
Does anybody here know the name, author, or other details of the above book? Just an academic question.
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Location: London, England | Hi there,
As far as I know it doesn't exist. In fact, according to an Indialogist friend of mine, if the the yoga korunta is written in the from that Jois says it was written in, then it's unique, because instructions were simply not written in that way. I certainly wouldn't spend too much time looking for it.
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| To answer your question:
According to Pattabhi Jois, his teacher Sri Krishnamacharya learned Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga from the Yoga Kurunta. Very little is known of the text, though some believe it is approx 1,000 years old. It's author is reputed to be a rishi named Vamana.
To give my own opinion:
TKV Desikachar, Krishnamacharya's son politely disputes the authenticity of the document. The concepts found within Ashtanga Vinyasa are far more likely to be the creation of Krishnamacharya himself and adapted over the years by Pattabhi Jois. The rest has become Yoga urban myth.
Jonathon
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| oops, sorry, I was not looking for the Korunta itself. I suppose Krishnamacharya was one of those historical geniuses, like Morihei Ueshiba or Yang Lu Chan, who was able to develop the whole thing himself, using ancient bits and pieces scattered around.
I was actually hoping to get the publication details of the following book mentioned in the article:
"A recent book published in India suggests that many yoga asanas bear a striking resemblance to the poses seen in British calisthenics, which were imported during the colonial period."
Edited by SeeOtter 2007-01-30 7:47 PM
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| I think this may be the book you're looking for:
Alter, Joseph S.
Yoga in modern India, the body between science and philosophy
It's in my local library catalogue and I've been wondering whether to get it out on loan. Has anyone else read this? It looks intriguing and may touch on the subject of how old yoga actually is. If Krishnamacharya did develop Ashtanga, why didn't he feel that he could take the credit?
Amazon link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yoga-Modern-India-Between-Philosophy/dp/0691118744/sr=8-1/qid=1170241587/ref=sr_1_1/202-2954892-1085457?ie=UTF8&s=books |
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Location: London, England | Hi Ian,
Thanks for that book recommendation-I've got the rest of his books, have just ordered this one, thanks very much
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| Nick,
Let me know if it's any good won't you? I also think I saw something about yoga and the similarity between it and calisthenics in The Five Tibetans by Christopher Killham
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Location: London, England | Hi Ian,
Ok, it should be here soon and I tend to vacuum his books up Looks interesting. I've looked into some of the old victorian strongmen and have seen a lot of similarities with yoga postures-I guess it might just be with the effort to find challenging body postures using gravity as resistance.
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| Thank you very much! I have ordered that from Amazon UK, and will write a review when I have read. Unfortunately they say delivery in 4 to 6 weeks.  |
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Location: London, England | Hi Scott,
That's weird-I've ordered the book from amazon, and the delivery date is 2-3 days-sure you havn't mis-read the delivery date?
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| Awk. You are correct. It is listed on US Amazon. I have re-ordered from there and canceled the UK Amazon order, which was 4 to 6 weeks. Thanks! |
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| Chained off of Ian's excellent suggestion, I also saw the following on Amazon:
The Yoga Tradition of the Mysore Palace (Hardcover)
by N. E. Sjoman
and I have ordered this also as it looked relevant and interesting to (my) question at hand (i.e. the historical origins of the actual, physical asanas, in the precise Ashtanga sequence we practice daily, as opposed to Patanjali yoga philosophical orgins).
Some discussion of the book here:
http://www.yogajournal.com/wisdom/466_1.cfm
Amazon summary:
Book Description
This book traces the developmental years of the Ashtanga Yoga tradition of K. Pattabhi Jois as well as the Iyengar system through exploration of the early years at the Mysore Palace. It also depicts an ancient text called: SRITATTVANIDHI. It is recommended for anyone wishing to understand more about the formative years of two of the worlds most popular and dynamic teachers: K. Pattabhi Jois and BKS Iyengar as well as their teacher: Krishnamacharya of Mysore.
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Location: London, England | Hi Scott,
No problem-easily done!
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| Some discussion of the book here:
http://www.yogajournal.com/wisdom/466_1.cfm
It seems from the above review that Sjoman's book is in fact the one attributing part of Ashtanga to British calisthenics. Thanks very much Ian and Nick. |
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Location: London, England | Hi Scott,
That's very interesting-couldn't find the book in the UK, will have a go later. Always wondered where the vinyasa came from
Nick |
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Great article about Pattabhi J
