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    Location: London, England | raquel - 2007-08-18 7:46 AM Recently I decided to get back into my cleansing practices. So I was doing neti, and then uddiyana bandha and was pleasantly surprised when I tried doing the version were the rectus relaxes down (I couldnt do it last year) I was wondering if anyone practices nauli, and if you do can you give me some advice on how to do it, ive tried pressing my hands alternatively onto my thigh. Is it done with the rectus down or up? Thanx Hi Raquel, I might have to get technical here  When you practice nauli, you are contracting the rectus muscles, as well as the three abdominal muscles either side of it-the three lateral muscles are what pulls the navel back towards the spine, hollowing the abdomen, and the rectus abdominus contracts to produce the distinctive pillar-then it's a case of alternately contracting and relaxing each side (it's not one muscle, it's two, either side of the mid-line) to produce the swirling effect. I'll try to go through the how-to's later on Nick | ||
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| raquel |
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| Nick, Thanks not quite sure what you mean is the rectus contracting out (in the pillar) or hollowed back with the transverse? I can make the rectus move in and out now too whilst the transverse is still hollowed , feels very weird  | |||
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Location: London, England | Hi Raquel, Well, you know the exercise before nauli, that in Astanga we call uddiyana bandha, or at least in my day we did . What is happening in this exercise is that the lateral abdominal muscles are contracting, and rectus abdominus is relaxed-there's no two ways about it, because if rectus abdominus contracts, then the pillar forms. So what you are doing when you make the rectus move in and out is alternate contraction and relaxation of rectus abdominus with a constant contraction of the lateral abdominal muscles. It's much easier to see this if you have a diagram. Nick | ||
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Location: London, England | Hi there, Just to add my own experience, I have found that the practice of both shatkarma has benefited me greatly over the years. Now, I think they are a practice in their own right-before, I struggled to understand their relevance. What's really nice for me to see, is that widespread scientific evidence points to the benefits of learning the control of all four abdominal muscles (each side), either individually, or in conjunction, to achieve a better position of the spine, and improved whole body movement. For back pain patients, it is recommended that the transversus abdominus muscle is rehabilitated-for an athlete seeking reurn to play after injury, a bracing of all the abdominal muscles is recommended. between these two points, lie all the contractions that are possible in the formation of bandha. Sorry, just started writing, couldn't stop Nick | ||
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| Hi shelly, I had planned to, but found it difficult to relax and hold the candle (and stop worrying that I'd burn my hair off ), so now my wife does it for me. It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it Jonathon | |||
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I don't think I would try it either, actually I was worried about you.  | |||
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| raquel |
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| Swallowing all that cloth was definately one of the most disgusting thing I have done. It was horrible I felt fine before, terrible while doing it and exactly the same afterwards. Personally, I won't be repeating it Even worse though, was swallowing all the salt water. that was REALLY REALLY disgusting... Jonathon | |||
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| Orbilia |
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| Whenever I read about some of the more extreme forms of kriya, I can't help wondering if it was ever meant to be taken seriously. I can see it now, the guru trying to ram knowledge and understanding into the dense heads of his young charges and getting increasingly irritated by their lack of attention. Eventually the guru resorts to saying something outrageous to check if they're even listening. Unfortunately one such charge catches the end of the lecture and mindlessly writes it down hoping that his mentor hasn't noticed him dozing in class.... the rest being history as they say Fee | |||
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| the elephant stomach cleansing must be one,"vomiting things in the stomach by moving apana into the throat....." urrgghh Jonnie ive fallen into the sea many times when water skiing and the salt is horrendous, in fact three dunks and ive had enough, so I think ill be giving that one a miss  | |||
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| Very wise I do think that many of the kriyas/shatkarmas are unnecessary now though. The body has it's own blue print of perfect health and when it is out of balance it knows how to cleanse itself. If you want to deepen your understanding of health from a Yogic perspective, then I recommend studying Neel's 'Health and Yoga Aphorisms'. Jonathon | |||
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| Thanx I will look into that on neels web site. I do think most of the shatkarmas are not needed today, but I think uddiyana bandha is still a good daily practice practice and neti, I think the effects are still beneficial, and I enjoy freaking my mates out with it too its a good party trick . | |||
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